I don't understand how people can be afraid of a fat, elderly man who wears apricot makeup,

his hair done up like tippy hedron in the birds and sits in a courtroom and moans and groans and complains and snorts, he belittled Alina Haba

Esquire, his own attorney. He would spit as he was talking. He didn't smell so good.

And the high point of Donald Trump in court was the moment he stood up because

Robbie Kaplan was giving the final argument and she was asking the jury how much it would take

to make him stop.

And she drove him so crazy, Joanna.

He stood up in the courtroom and left.

He stormed out.

When a man is innocent, he doesn't storm out of a courtroom. He stays and fights.

He turned tail, turn tail and starved out of the courtroom. He lost right at that second. He couldn't

have looked more guilty. I'm Joanna Coles. This is the Daily Beast podcast. We've been talking over the last few days about Michael Wolfe suing the first lady.

Well, here are two women who took on Donald Trump. One kept on winning and now are almost at the end of their epic legal battle. I'm talking,

of course, about E. Jean Carroll and her formidable lawyer, Robbie Kaplan. No time to waste.

They're going to bring us up to speed with exactly where their cases are and how tantalizingly close

they are to that very large financial judgment

against the president that they were awarded by a New York court.

Robbie Kaplan and E. Jean Carroll. Let's get into it.

And I guess the first question I should ask, really, is where do your cases stand now,

Eugen? Can you give us an up some? Because there's been so much news about them. And obviously,

Trump has been fighting them every step of the way. You keep winning. Where does it stand at the moment?

Well, Joanna, I'm going to turn this over to Robbie, but I will just say, we've had a clean sweep.

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