E.82 Why Being Unfit For Recovery Is A Good Thing With Jake Nichols and Pat Rice

Resilience Development in Action: First Responder Mental Health

Steve Bisson

Substance Use, Mental Health, Psychology, Education, Counseling, Social Sciences, Honest, Science, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

5.0 • 21 Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2023

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Send us Fan Mail In this first episode of 2023 and season 7, we speak to Jake Nichols. Jake discusses his journey from when he was young, his use of substances over the years and how recovery is the toughest yet best thing he has ever done. Pat Rice joins us, playing the role of co-host, as well as talking of his knowledge of Jake, recovery, and all that is the world of addiction. Jake Nichols is a pharmacist in long-term recovery from substance use and has been working in the addiction fie...

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0:00.0	Hi and welcome to finding your way through therapy.
0:05.3	I'm your host, Steve Biesel.
0:07.7	The goal of this podcast is to demystify therapy, what can happen in therapy,
0:13.2	and the wide array of conversations you can have in therapy.
0:17.2	I also talk to guests about therapy, their experience with therapy, and how psychology is present in many places in their lives.
0:25.6	I also share personal stories.
0:27.8	So please join me on this journey about therapy.
0:32.5	Hi and welcome to episode 82 of Finding Your Way Through Therapy or the premiere episode of season seven. My name is Steve Biesel. If you haven't listened to episode 82 of finding your way through therapy or the premiere episode of season seven.
0:38.5	My name is Steve Biesel.
0:39.9	If you haven't listened to Episode 81 yet, please do so.
0:42.7	Rachel Fletcher was the episode of the year, just a great interview about recovery, and I
0:47.2	really enjoyed talking about that.
0:48.9	You can also go back to listen to the 12 days of Christmas plus two, which were great messages from people who have been on my
0:56.2	podcast. But episode 82 will be with Jake Nichols and Pat Rice. We're going to talk about Jake
1:02.2	Nichols first because Jake Nichols is a pharmacist in long-term recovery. He's just written a book
1:07.1	called Unfit for Recovery, which has just been released. He's been working in the
1:11.0	addiction field for over 12 years and as an advocate and resource for evidence-based treatment
1:16.4	approaches and stigma reduction. He facilitates patient and parent support groups across the area
1:22.6	in Massachusetts and also just a great human being. I really liked talking to him prior to this interview, So I hope the interview goes well. And Pat Rice is going to be on this interview. Pat Rice has been on, what, four episodes before this. And Pat Rice is the one who recommended Jake and they've known each other for a while and wonder if they're going to talk about that relationship. Jake Nichols' book, again, is unfit for
1:44.4	recovery, just released. So can't wait to talk about that. And here is the interview. Well, hi,
1:50.9	and welcome to the premiere episode of season seven. I can't believe I got the season seven of finding
1:56.3	your way through therapy. I am Steve Bisson. This is also YouTube channel episode 19. I know you're going to
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