Hi and welcome to finding your way through therapy.

I'm your host, Steve Biesel.

The goal of this podcast is to demystify therapy, what can happen in therapy, and the

wide array of conversations you can have in therapy.

I also talk to guests about therapy, their experience with therapy, and how psychology is present in many places in their lives.

I also share personal stories.

So please join me on this journey about therapy.

Hi and welcome to episode 81 of finding your way through therapy.

I'm your host, Steve Bissom.

If you haven't listened to Episode 80 yet, please do so.

It was a conversation with Pat Rice.

Pat Rice is someone I consider a friend, and he was the most downloaded episode.

So I put the most downloaded episode there.

It talks about near death experience, among other things.

Episode 81 will be my favorite

episode. It was hard to choose. I had the 12 days of Christmas, which helped. But I chose Rachel Fletcher.

Rachel is someone who came in and talked about her experience with her sobriety and how she now

runs like two programs for people in recovery and how it goes with climbing and it was just

an amazing episode. The energy that we had, I really felt great connection, not that I didn't

feel connections with others, but it was a great episode. It was, as someone told me, very friendly

and made them feel like we could go to get to recovery and it would be easy for them.

And that gave an idea of how the environment could be.

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