Hi and welcome to finding your way through therapy.

I'm your host, Steve Biesel.

The goal of this podcast is to demystify therapy, what can happen in therapy,

and the wide array of conversations you can have in therapy.

I also talk to guests about therapy, their experience with therapy, and how psychology

is present in many places in their lives.

I also share personal stories.

So please join me on this journey about therapy.

Well, hi everyone and thank you for listening again.

I hope you got a chance to listen to episode 69 on Being Real, which is a chapter of my book.

I talk a little bit about what's in the chapter as well as my thoughts today in regards to that chapter.

So I hope you go back and listen to it and even better go by my book, which is awesome.

But episode today is 70 and I will be talking to Jay Ball.

Jay Ball is an officer at a police department in Massachusetts.

And joining him will be Caitlin Dehe, who used to be on a team that did the co-response with Jay,

and he did training for mental health first aid.

I've had Jay on from

episode 2, 15, 28, 40, and 53. And Caitlin has been on since episode 40 and 53. And we have good

chemistry. So I hope that continues to show. We're going to try to talk a little bit about veterans.

And one of the things I always wonder is how do we find good

treatment for first responders. So hopefully that I'll come up today. And here is the interview.

Well, hi and welcome to episode 70 of finding your way through therapy. It's also YouTube channel

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