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I'm your host, Steve Biesel.

The goal of this podcast is to demystify therapy, what can happen in therapy, and the

wide array of conversations you can have in therapy.

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Hi and welcome to episode 67 of finding your way through therapy.

I'm Steve Biesel.

If you haven't listened to episode 66 yet, please do so. Pat Rice and Kerry Keegan had amazing things to say. I love the

connection with the whales. And if you haven't listened to it, you'll get it once you listen to it.

So please go back and listen to that. But episode 67 is actually about a chapter in my book. The chapter is look up to the spirit in your life. The reason why I wanted to do that is twofold. Number one, I have actually read my chapter in about a year. You know, you write a book. You read it once or twice, and then you kind of leave it on the side. So I reread it because I knew I was going to do this episode. But more importantly, I wanted to make sure that you guys knew that I wrote a book

and that it is

available on any good platforms such as Amazon or Barnes and Nobles. And I would love for you to go and

check it out. So when I wrote that chapter, it was interesting because I was going through my own

spiritual crisis in the sense that I was going through my own spiritual crisis in the sense

that I was going through a divorce. And when you have a spiritual practice, no matter what it is,

you kind of get through it with some of the belief systems that you have. And Buddhism really helped

me. And Buddhism is obviously not a religion, it is principles. And the four noble truths are probably

one of the things that really helped me through that. And the four noble truths, the most

important one to me was the first one was that life is suffering. The second one being suffering is

due to desire. And learning to use the principles of the eightful path really helped me get

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