Hi and welcome to finding your way through therapy. The goal of this

podcast is to demystify therapy, what can happen in therapy, and the wide

array of conversations you can have in and about therapy.

Through personal experiences, guests will talk about therapy, their experiences with it, and

how psychology and therapy are present in many places in their lives.

With lots of authenticity and a touch of humor,

here is your host, Steve Bissant. It's always well, appreciate, Monsieur Lassar.

And welcome to episode 125.

If you haven't listened to episode 124, it's me talking about first responders, a dear subject for me, and I hope that you go and listen to it.

But episode 125 will be with Liz Kelly. Liz Kelly, someone I've known through another job. We never met

face-to-face. We've done a lot of zooms together. We've done a lot of different

things. She is very insightful. But Liz Kelly is a psychotherapist and an author and she's had 13 years of experience in the mental health field

including working in different settings with the DC Medical Examiner's Office as well as lawyers,

the Went Center of Loss and Hearing, Tox Space,

Med Star Rehabilitation Hospital.

She's been seen on different publications

and media outlets such as USA Today, Bustle,

Today Show.com, The Daily Beast, Teen Vogue, the Wall Street Journal,

Cheddar News, among anything else that she's's been on you can also find her at

Liz Kelly MSW.com and hopefully we're going to talk about different things but

most particularly with the holidays coming sometimes we have trouble with

boundaries and setting up all those things and we feel bad about them so I think we're

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