Are you ready to embark on a journey of wisdom, growth and self-discovery? This episode, we're joined by the ‘mental men’ - Pat Rice, Dr. Robert Cherney, Dennis Sweeney, and Andrew Kang - four inspiring mentors who share their experiences and insights as psychotherapists. We converse about their diverse career trajectories and their perspectives on the therapy process, especially in treating those in recovery and de-stigmatizing mental health care. Their unique stories and experiences provide a rich tapestry of insight, inspiring us to look at mental health and healing in a new light.

We explore how mentorship plays a critical role in therapy, as our mentors guide us, inspire us and help us understand ourselves better. We share personal stories - from Steve's experience with Bob and Dennis to Pat's metaphorical lesson from his last therapist. The conversation emphasizes the importance of self-reflection and learning to ask the right questions. We also explore the benefits of brain-based interventions and how they have the potential to revolutionize therapy.

In the final part of our conversation, we delve into the essence of learning, healing, and community in therapy. We discuss the evolution of EMDR over the years, the effectiveness of virtual EMDR, and the importance of finding mentors and peers who understand the unique experience of doing therapy. We wrap up our conversation by expressing our gratitude to the mental men for sharing their wisdom and invite you to join us for the next season of the podcast. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone looking to gain a deeper understanding of the therapeutic journey, the importance of mentorship, and the value of community in healing and growth.

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