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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Duggar Family Deep Dive (Chapter 13)

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

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🗓️ 18 September 2023

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Dr Kirk and Humberto analyze the Duggar family, modern Christian cults, the ethics of children in reality TV, and so much more.

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00:00 ATI: Homeschooling

19:42 Sexual abuse education in IBLP

34:27 Propaganda as education

47:10 To Train Up a Child


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September 18, 2023

The Psychology In Seattle Podcast ®


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0:00.0

Hey, deserve listeners. This is chapter 13. I think the last chapter in our

0:06.0

Duggard deep dive. Let's get into it. My name is Dr. Kirk Honda. I'm a therapist and a professor.

0:11.7

My name is Umberto Castaña and I use my hands for important things. So let's get into

0:19.1

ATI. So this is the Advanced Training Institute with an IBLP which the Duggers were a part of and

0:25.1

used and it is the home schooling program that is pretty elaborate and has some very interesting

0:34.0

aspects to it. So let's get into ATI. And I think it's again, as I said earlier, there's

0:40.4

nothing wrong with having a religion or a belief system, but there is something wrong when

0:44.8

those beliefs or that religion harms people and particularly kids, right, to educate, quote-unquote

0:51.5

kids in a way that is giving them false information. I would imagine knowingly giving them

0:58.8

propaganda because they justify it, right? They're giving them the right information. They're

1:04.5

saving their souls. They're making it so they can procreate better and survive better.

1:09.2

Yeah, so it's harmful. It's harmful. It's false information. It's unnecessary. There are plenty

1:17.7

of Christian kids who go to public school and take all the regular classes that doesn't have to

1:24.3

threaten your religion. You just decided that and maybe needed to have total control or more control

1:31.6

over your people. But anyway, so ATI is the home schooling program and the other thing that I just

1:39.1

want to mention up front is that there seems to be and I learned this a long time ago that there

1:45.2

is very little government monitoring of children's education. Like I grew up, I thought people said this

1:53.0

that if I didn't go to school for a while. There's truant officers, remember hearing about that?

1:59.4

As far as I know, and I worked with a lot of families who had kids who were truant and whatnot,

2:06.2

and I never met a truant officer. You just had this sense that there was this guy who just

2:12.8

roamed around in an old plymouth and smoked cigarettes and we're just looking for truant kids

2:18.4

that he could rough them up and bring them back to school. Another aspect, I just figured that

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