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Decoding the Gurus

DTG Christmas Special 2022 with Helen Lewis

Decoding the Gurus

Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne

Social Sciences, Science, Leisure, Society & Culture

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 December 2022

⏱️ 137 minutes

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Summary

Join us for this special festive episode in which we initiate the fledgling Gurologist (and occasional journalist and author) Helen Lewis into the deeper and more esoteric levels of Gurology. Helen may have produced an excellent new multi-part series on the New Gurus for the BBC but just how many nut or shark-based anecdotes can you fit into a 30-minute episode? And is the BBC really ready for truly hardcore sensemaking?

In any case, we indulge our new padawan with an extended discussion about the new series (it's actually very, very good!) and what she has learned on her travels. Along the way we compare notes, discuss the ethics of covering narcissists and harmful gurus, and uncover Helen's personal role in creating one prominent modern guru.

But that's not all! Befitting the season, Helen comes bearing a gift... or is it a test? Unveiling her inner Quizmaster persona she attempts to humble the masters with an End of Year Guru quiz. Can Matt & Chris survive? Who between them is the true Gurologist (& who conversely is winning at life)? Join us and find out!

P.S. The Elon Decoding episode is on its way very soon!

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Welcome to Decoding the Gurus, the podcast where an anthropologist and a psychologist

0:29.4

listen to the greatest minds the world has to offer and try to understand what they're talking about.

0:34.7

I'm not going to introduce you.

0:35.6

You've got to introduce this.

0:37.5

What am I here for?

0:39.1

Wow, that was.

0:40.4

I was so captivated by that, that I was just expecting to continue on.

0:45.9

It was like listening to a BBC series.

0:48.2

I thought I've worked out.

0:50.1

But you didn't do the end, so I'll have to finish it off.

0:53.1

He's Chris Kavanaugh, an anthropologist.

0:56.1

I'm Matthew Brown, psychologist.

0:57.9

And with us, our guest on a very special, a Christmas special episode is Helen Lewis.

1:03.4

Hello.

1:03.7

Thank you for doing the introduction, Helen.

1:05.6

I know.

1:06.1

I am available for Barty's Mar-Mitsfers, other podcast introductions.

1:09.9

Just call my agent.

1:11.2

So this was the agreed tri for you doing a series on gurus. Therefore, we stand for our

1:18.5

approval in the series for the BBC. Yeah, that's a reasonable treatise. It's good. I was

1:25.7

genuinely really worried when we pitched it and we got it commissioned.

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