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This is Deep State Radio coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third

sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C. and from other undisclosed locations across America

and around the world.

Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm David Rothkoff. I'm your host. I am joined today as I am almost every week by our friends. Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center. How you doing Rosa?

I'm doing okay David.

And Edward G. Loose of the Financial Times how we're doing today, Ed? Just about surviving, thanks David.

Just about surviving is excellent.

Let's start with Ed's latest handiwork in a column today in the Financial Times in which he talked a little bit about

Ukraine policy.

It's been in the news a bunch this week because there have been some hearings on the hill in which people have said we don't provide them with money they're going to lose and it's going to be bad.

There have been, there's been a visit by the UK foreign minister, David Cameron, to Maralago, to plead with Donald Trump to lift his hold on Ukraine

aid. There's been no progress on this and there's even been an interview with Vladimir Zelensky in Ukraine by some

journalists from Axel Springer Furlog,

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