Hi everyone. I'm Stephanie Wilder Taylor and this is Drunkish, the podcast based on the book Drunkish,

where I told my whole sobriety story because I can't keep anything back. But now I have this

podcast so I can hear other people's stories. And today's guest is, oh, this was a really fun interview. This is my friend Tara

Motter. She's the mom of a teenager and she has a pretty new baby. She's also a writer, a speaker,

and she has a substack called recovering from something. And by the way, if you want to watch this episode, please go to Drunkish Pod on YouTube and watch

away.

And here's Tara.

Thank you. And here we are with Tara Mauder.

Hi, Tara.

Hi.

How are you?

This is like a reunion for us. I know. We're so overdue. It's like a girlfriend catch up, but like on air. I know. I know. I saw your sober content on the gram. You guys. I'm trying to learn what to call it if I, you know, I want to sound really young like the kids. I know. But I'm like, yeah, do I call it IG? Do I,

I don't know. Like, whatever we want. We got to be cool. But, but you are posting sober content

and I met you, well, you have, you'll tell the story of pre, but when I met you, we are both

sober people. Yes. Had that in common.

Yes.

Yeah.

So we met when I was like going through some rounds of IVF and then I took your class

during my pregnancy.

And then yeah, so that was super fun.

But so yeah, no, I, years ago when you wrote your first book to pickups for for not for Chardonnay, somebody gifted it to me. And I was like, this is, this is my new Bible. Like, I'm going to be a drunky fun mom. Like, this is great. It was like the OG mommy wine culture. And I was like, signed up for it. I bought everyone the book. And then I got like, you know, nap time is the new happy hour. And I'm like, this is, this is me. Like, we are the same. And then life goes on, got drunker. And, you know, I was like in and out of recovery rooms. And I don't, and then like moved to California when I was 18 months sober, maybe seven, eight years ago. And then, yeah, I was at lunch with a friend. And at the last

minute, she was like, can I invite another friend? I'm like, sure, whoever I don't care, more than merrier. And we got to talking and she said she was in a writing group. And I'm like, oh, I got to get back to writing. Like, you know, and she's like, yeah, it's with this gal, she's an author, friend of mine, you know, said your name. I'm like, wait, what?

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