I'm pulling up a driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for it to drive to work.

Okay. So today, I'm going to talk about a role that I've never talked about before.

So I was hired to work at Wizards in 1995, and I had started freelancing in 1994, but I started playing magic in 1993.

So what most people don't realize is before I became a wizard's employee, before I was even a wizard's freelancer, I was a magic player. And I don't talk a lot about myself was a magic player.

And I don't talk a lot about myself as a magic player.

So I want to talk today about sort of what I was like before I worked for Wizards,

before, like, back when I was just a magic player, what was I like?

What kind of magic player was I?

And so I just wanted to share some stories from my early, early days to sort of, like, one of the things that's important to understand is, I began as a magic player,

not as a magic designer, not as a magic developer, not as a Wizards of Coast employee. I was just a magic fan. And a lot of times, I know I had the podcast with Melissa, where we talked about our

magic first. And that made me realize that I haven't really shared a lot of times, I know I had the podcast with Melissa where we talked about our magic first.

And that made me realize that I haven't really shared a lot of sort of the, when I say my early

magic, like pre-wizzards magic.

And so today was talking about who was I as a magic player?

What was kind of my, I don't know, just sort of talk about what it was like to be a magic player.

Because I definitely draw on that when I try to understand newer players.

I try to remember when I was a new player.

Okay, so, I'm going to try not to recover too much ground than Melissa and I did on the first podcast,

because hopefully you've listened to that.

It's a little too part or you should listen to if you haven't.

But okay, so the super short version that I talked about before is I was working at a game store part-time, the Gamekeeper.

People came in, they asked about the game, it interests me.

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