I'm pulling out a match driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work.

And Matt Kavada's with us. Good times.

So I thought I would see less of you, but I'm, we're getting more Mad podcasts.

Okay, so today I thought we'd talk about another creative topic, the creative team does, since in your distant past you were once a member of the creative team.

What we call world building, which is magic does this crazy, crazy thing where every year we make a brand new world from scratch.

And we're signing up to do two brand new worlds from scratch.

So I want to talk about, I mean, you and I have both been involved.

And, I mean, we're not in charge of the process, but both of us have witnessed the process.

What exactly do we do to come up with a brand new world you've never seen before?

Well, from, again, my distant vantage point of this part of the process,

it starts out with the very, very big and broad decision of we need to make a

new set that

focuses on this type of card

or this type of mechanic

or we want to do another multicolored

and from that could spawn an idea

about a world that could house that structure.

Yeah, I mean, I think the key to building worlds is usually the set,

a little bit of work is done on the set before the creative world is completely defined.

That's not always true depending on the world and stuff,

but usually we do a little bit of design work before the world starts.

Well, for example, we knew we were doing a multicolored set before we attached guilds, or the concept of guilds, to Ravnika.

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