Hello, family. Welcome, welcome back to the Pillars podcast. I am your loving host, Dylan Bowman. Thank you so much for being here for another really fun episode with a great and interesting athlete and human being. This week, I welcome my friend Drew Holman to the program for a really deep and interesting conversation about his life and early career

in the great sport of Trail and Ultra Running. Drew really launched himself into the international

ultra conversation with a very impressive third place finish at this year's Western States

100. His first ever 100 mile race

and he finished on the podium at Western States. Drew had done a lot of great things in the

sport before that, but his Western States performance, his 100 mile debut firmly established him

as one of the true rising stars in the sport.

Drew and I met many years ago when we were both living in the San Francisco Bay Area,

and as you'll hear in our conversation, those of us who had a front row seat to his development

were not at all surprised by his incredible performance at

Western States. And I really do think that he has the potential to have a huge impact on the

sport at the highest level over the next 10 years or so. But Drew is not crazy active on social media. He doesn't seek the spotlight,

which is one of the things that I really like about him. But it leaves it up to people like me

to toot his horn for him. So it was great to have him on the show. We talk all about his upbringing, his development as part of the San Francisco running company community where he and I met.

We talk about his approach to Western States and what he learned from his incredible 100 mile debut.

And we also talk a lot about the aftermath. and as you'll hear uh the recovery has not been

easy for drew he really laid it all out on the line and you'll hear from him as to what the

consequences of that have been for him as always if you the show, we would really appreciate your support.

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