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Hi this is Hope.

This is Kerem. Hi this is Katie from Washington DC and you're a left to know me

Athlete Radio. I'm Matt Frazier joined

for this intro by Doug Hay who

will surely be leaving us when we get to our interview with

Drena Burton, author of five vegan cookbooks, most recently plant-powered

families. Before that let them eat vegan both

of which I own and love so I'm really excited to interview Drina today. Doug as a

non-parent you that's not that motivating to you plant-powered families but I guess I guess you could have a family

just just you and a wife? That's right yeah or with you know if you have families

over if you have friends over that have children.

That's one of the questions.

It's just a topic that we get asked so often,

both in Q&As and emails to you about how to cook for my family or how to get my kids to eat

Yeah that's why I was really excited to have her on we've been trying to do this for like a year

Honestly she sent me this book before we went to Italy and then our house fluttered and all that.

We were going to do a podcast back then, and then everything just kind of got out of hand for a long time.

So I just, I wanted to connect with her and have her on, but that question has just come in so many times.

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