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Dreaming of Hillary on the Campaign Trail

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4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2018

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Virginia Heffernan talks to the author of Chasing Hillary, Amy Chozick, about "New York Times worship," being what she calls an "unwitting agent of Russian intelligence," and why she kept having dreams of Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail. Plus, the RNC is still digging for the right website to discredit James Comey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

There are times this behavior seems almost pathological.

0:04.6

The pattern of falsehoods.

0:06.1

He's always in the moment just sort of reacting and trying to get reactions.

0:11.0

How loyal are you to the president?

0:12.5

And that's how you're being judged.

0:13.5

So if you have more nuanced position, some will consider you an infidel or a traitor.

0:24.9

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast.

0:25.9

I'm Virginia Heffernan.

0:27.8

So as you'll probably know, or wait, you don't know, because who cares?

0:30.6

But I dressed up like Natalia Vesselnitzkaya for Halloween.

0:34.4

Nobody out trick or treating recognized me except Paul Manafort, who was wearing prison

0:38.5

stripes.

0:39.5

He recognized me because of course we met at Trump Tower that time in June of 2016 when

0:44.3

Don Jr. and Jared Kushner were also there to talk about repealing the Magnitsky Act.

0:50.4

Anyway, I keep my eye on Natalia.

0:52.9

And today after denying she was an agent of the Russian government, she had her hand

0:56.8

forced and admitted she's a full on informant.

1:00.7

That's what she said and has been since 2013.

1:05.1

2013, 2013, 2013.

1:08.8

I swear that sounds familiar.

1:10.3

Miss Universe.

1:12.1

Trump in Moscow.

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