What's up everybody? Welcome into the next pets podcast. I'm Phil Perry. Fantastic episode to bring to you right now because we're talking to the great Todd McShay. You know him, you love them all those years at ESPN.

He and Mel Kuiper going back and forth.

He is so plugged in, has so much intel, watches these guys so closely all year long.

It's fantastic to be able to get to spend a few minutes with him and talk about what he's hearing about the Patriots and their interests and which players might fit and what to do

with the receiver position in this year's draft, even if you plan on drafting, A.J. Brown,

it's a great, great conversation. We're just going to launch right into it today.

So you have it at your fingertips and, I don't know, I guess really at your earholes.

So here's our conversation with Todd McShay.

All right, very excited now to have with us on NextPats.

Todd McShay, you know him, you love them, host of the McShay show, author of the McShay report,

The Brains along with Steve Minch behind the McShay NFL draft room, which is incredible.

We're going to ask you about that in just a minute, Todd.

But thank you so much for being with us. I know it's a hectic time of year for you,

less than two weeks away from the NFL draft. But thanks for being with us here on next

Pat's, bud. Glad to be, bud. It's always an exciting time of year and always love doing some stuff

as a Massachusetts born and raised guy. I love doing some stuff for the, you know, the local area. So it's good to be with you. Well, one of the very, very best when it comes to talking about these draft guys. And this is what we love talking about on this podcast. And I guess sort of big picture, Todd, the first thing I wanted to ask you was just how you see this draft. I think there's been some conversation about how it's, you know, maybe relative to other years.

It's not the most talented draft we've ever seen.

But like, is this the kind of draft where a team like the Patriots, which is obviously picking the bottom of most rounds?

Are they going to be able to maybe find a few starters here to supplement what was a team that, you know, for the most part,

minus a few guys that were key contributors on that last year's team, able to make a Super Bowl?

Yeah, it's, I mean, first of all, the Patriots are in a great position not needing a quarterback because it's not that draft, right?

And so I think that's part of the image of this draft, if you will, with just Fernando

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