Welcome to Karen Hunter is awesome.

And in this space, we have conversations that very few people have.

I love nuance, but more than nuance.

I really like to think deeply about the conditions that we find ourselves in every day.

We are here with Dr. Amen decolonizing our tongues and our minds. And calabashtie.com is where

you go to get all of your life because that's still in full effect. So you can still get all

your tea and it makes it even easier to send and package stuff without having to be on your feet.

So one of the things I want to make sure that we do today is keep my promise that you promised me out for, which is what are the herbs that are good for sugar?

Because it's serious. That sugar addiction is a beast.

It's I've seen people get off of cocaine, no joke and heroin easier than sugar. I know it sounds like a funny

thing to say, but I really have seen it. And a lot of times, and maybe you've seen this,

Professor Hunter, that people use sugar as the crutch to get off of serious drugs.

Yeah. When I say candy, they'll have candy yes

but like

it's so called

illegal right

they'll have candy

so it's cigarettes

it's a lollipop

I've known people

who are on heroin

they just start

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