This is something that I'm picking up on already is many of the things that a cult might say to you are actually true.

Do you get what I'm saying? I do think mankind is asleep in that way. And we see it in what we eat, how we live, how we work, how we consume. There is a level of like a sleep. Sleepwalking. Yeah, but I go like, yeah, no, this is true. We're not in touch with our bodies anymore. We're not in tune with our minds. We, you know, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, if someone said that to me, people walking down the street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know how many times I see people walk into the street on their phone and then a car has to swivel. I'm like, yeah, we are.

So they would have walking down the street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know how many times I see people walk into the street on their phone and then a car has

to swivel?

I'm like, yeah, we are.

So they would have me on that line.

If they said mankind is asleep, I'd be like, carry on?

But you're getting on another universal point that's really demanding, underlining and

with a red pencil that the ideologies have truthful, important things in it.

And they quote famous people who say really important things.

So it's not just all BS.

And that's also as a therapist.

That's what I try to do in helping my clients deconstruct.

How did they get hooked?

What were the pieces that hook them?

And the technique, I'm jumping ahead, and I'll circle back to your earlier question,

but the technique that's most effective is I empower my clients to

understand Chinese communist brainwashing, my model, etc. And the technique is this simple. I ask

people to go back to that critical earlier moment when they were getting recruited or they were

falling in love with someone who was a malignant

narcissist that was going to ruin their lives. If you knew then what you know now, what would

you say and do differently?

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