The prime goal of government is to

goal of government is to protect the minority of the opulent from the majority.

And in order to do that, you've got to fragment the majority so they really

can't get together and do very much. And you have to concentrate power in the wealth of the nation. If you don't have your finger, all the trigger.

What's the use of your own guy?

If you don't have your welcome for the next hour.

I'm here back in New York fresh from my trip to Turkey.

I just this is what this is my commute getting here today. I got

on a flight in Bodrum no car to the airport. Bodram to Istanbul. Five-hour layer in

Istanbul flight cab to my house, washed my hair, because it was disgusting,

and then I took a train and a cab to get here to this exciting show because we have with us.

Dr. Robert Epstein, senior research psychologist for the American Institute of

Behavioral Research and Technology.

You also used to run psychology today and you might be the only person on Earth, or at least the only one who I've been in the same room with, who at one point was banned from Google.

Yes, that's right. And we have Matt Taylor, who is the director of the new documentary The creepy line all about search engine

manipulation and how the consequences has for our society and there was so many I watched the documentary on the plane

there were so many things that you were hitting upon that it's just going to take a

while to unpack first of all can you tell us dr upset can you tell us the story

of how you woke up and saw that you couldn't access

Google.com? Well that was because an article came out in the Washington Post

about some research that I had just released publicly and the research was on the discovery of what I call the search engine manipulation effect or seam,

SEME and I was showing in some experiments that just by ordering things in a certain way on the search

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