Dr. Pauline Boss: ...dealing with loss in the pandemic
Nobody Told Me!
Nobody Told Me!
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🗓️ 7 March 2023
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Joining us is psychologist and grief expert Dr. Pauline Boss, whose latest book is called, "THE MYTH OF CLOSURE: Ambiguous Loss in a Time of Pandemic and Change". Her website is https://www.ambiguousloss.com/
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Laura Owens and I'm Jan Black. We all experience grief and |
| 0:15.1 | loss in life, whether it's the death of a loved one, the breakup of a relationship, the loss |
| 0:20.1 | of a job, or something else. |
| 0:22.0 | And on this episode, we'll look at what's involved in dealing with the losses we've experienced as a result of the pandemic. |
| 0:27.7 | Joining us is psychologist and grief expert Dr. Pauline Boss, whose latest book is called The Myth of Closure, Ambiguous loss in a time of pandemic and change. |
| 0:39.8 | Dr. Boss, we thank you so very much for joining us. |
| 0:42.7 | It's my pleasure. |
| 0:43.9 | Tell us what you mean by this term ambiguous loss. |
| 0:47.8 | You really are the person who coined it back in the 70s. |
| 0:51.3 | Yes, that's true. |
| 0:53.3 | And ambiguous loss really means simply an unclear loss. |
| 0:59.6 | And there are two different kinds of unclear losses, ambiguous losses. The first is a physical |
| 1:06.5 | ambiguous loss where the person's body is missing or they themselves are missing physically, |
| 1:13.0 | my first research was with the families of soldiers missing in action in the Vietnam conflict. |
| 1:21.7 | And more common examples of physical ambiguous loss would be divorce, adoption, and perhaps a family member who |
| 1:31.6 | has to travel too much and is away from home and the children a lot. |
| 1:36.8 | Psychological ambiguous loss, the second type I studied, was in fact with families with |
| 1:44.0 | Alzheimer's disease, and that is where the person is there |
| 1:48.3 | physically but they're also gone emotionally and in their memory and psychologically so those two kinds |
| 1:57.7 | of ambiguous loss can can happen to do you individually or as a couple or as a family. |
| 2:06.8 | But there needs to be the assumption of attachment. |
| 2:10.6 | You can't have an ambiguous loss if you weren't attached to that person or a thing like a pet or a house in the first place. |
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