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Dr. Pauline Boss: ...dealing with loss in the pandemic

Nobody Told Me!

Nobody Told Me!

Entrepreneurship, Business

4.2671 Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

We all experience grief and loss in life, whether it’s the death of a loved one, the breakup of a romantic relationship, loss of a job or something else. On this episode, we explore what’s involved in dealing with the losses we’ve experienced as a result of the pandemic.
Joining us is psychologist and grief expert Dr. Pauline Boss, whose latest book is called, "THE MYTH OF CLOSURE: Ambiguous Loss in a Time of Pandemic and Change".  Her website is https://www.ambiguousloss.com/
 
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0:00.0

Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Laura Owens and I'm Jan Black. We all experience grief and

0:15.1

loss in life, whether it's the death of a loved one, the breakup of a relationship, the loss

0:20.1

of a job, or something else.

0:22.0

And on this episode, we'll look at what's involved in dealing with the losses we've experienced as a result of the pandemic.

0:27.7

Joining us is psychologist and grief expert Dr. Pauline Boss, whose latest book is called The Myth of Closure, Ambiguous loss in a time of pandemic and change.

0:39.8

Dr. Boss, we thank you so very much for joining us.

0:42.7

It's my pleasure.

0:43.9

Tell us what you mean by this term ambiguous loss.

0:47.8

You really are the person who coined it back in the 70s.

0:51.3

Yes, that's true.

0:53.3

And ambiguous loss really means simply an unclear loss.

0:59.6

And there are two different kinds of unclear losses, ambiguous losses. The first is a physical

1:06.5

ambiguous loss where the person's body is missing or they themselves are missing physically,

1:13.0

my first research was with the families of soldiers missing in action in the Vietnam conflict.

1:21.7

And more common examples of physical ambiguous loss would be divorce, adoption, and perhaps a family member who

1:31.6

has to travel too much and is away from home and the children a lot.

1:36.8

Psychological ambiguous loss, the second type I studied, was in fact with families with

1:44.0

Alzheimer's disease, and that is where the person is there

1:48.3

physically but they're also gone emotionally and in their memory and psychologically so those two kinds

1:57.7

of ambiguous loss can can happen to do you individually or as a couple or as a family.

2:06.8

But there needs to be the assumption of attachment.

2:10.6

You can't have an ambiguous loss if you weren't attached to that person or a thing like a pet or a house in the first place.

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