Dr. Pauline Boss: ...dealing with loss in the pandemic

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🗓️ 1 April 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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We all experience grief and loss in life, whether it’s the death of a loved one, the breakup of a romantic relationship, loss of a job or something else. On this episode, we’ll look at what’s involved in dealing with the losses we’ve experienced as a result of the pandemic.

Joining us is psychologist and grief expert Dr. Pauline Boss, whose latest book is called, "THE MYTH OF CLOSURE: Ambiguous Loss in a Time of Pandemic and Change".

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0:00.0	Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Laura Owens and I'm Jan Black. We all experience grief and
0:15.1	loss in life, whether it's the death of a loved one, the breakup of a relationship, the loss
0:20.1	of a job, or something else.
0:22.0	And on this episode, we'll look at what's involved in dealing with the losses we've experienced as a result of the pandemic.
0:27.7	Joining us is psychologist and grief expert Dr. Pauline Boss, whose latest book is called The Myth of Closure, Ambiguous loss in a time of pandemic and change.
0:39.8	Dr. Boss, we thank you so very much for joining us.
0:42.7	It's my pleasure.
0:43.9	Tell us what you mean by this term ambiguous loss.
0:47.8	You really are the person who coined it back in the 70s.
0:51.3	Yes, that's true.
0:53.3	And ambiguous loss really means simply an unclear loss.
0:59.6	And there are two different kinds of unclear losses, ambiguous losses. The first is a physical
1:06.5	ambiguous loss where the person's body is missing or they themselves are missing physically,
1:13.0	my first research was with the families of soldiers missing in action in the Vietnam conflict.
1:21.7	And more common examples of physical ambiguous loss would be divorce, adoption, and perhaps a family member who
1:31.6	has to travel too much and is away from home and the children a lot.
1:36.8	Psychological ambiguous loss, the second type I studied, was in fact with families with
1:44.0	Alzheimer's disease, and that is where the person is there
1:48.3	physically but they're also gone emotionally and in their memory and psychologically so those two kinds
1:57.7	of ambiguous loss can can happen to do you individually or as a couple or as a family.
2:06.8	But there needs to be the assumption of attachment.
2:10.6	You can't have an ambiguous loss if you weren't attached to that person or a thing like a pet or a house in the first place.
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