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The Rich Roll Podcast

Dr. Neal Barnard, M.D. On Breaking The Dairy Addiction

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2017

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

“Some foods are fattening. Others are addictive. Cheese is both…Loaded with calories, high in sodium, packing more cholesterol than steak, and sprinkled with hormones — if cheese were any worse, it would be Vaseline.” Neal Barnard, M.D. Last week we discussed the how behind ditching dairy. This week we discuss the why. Right now the average American eats more than 33 pounds of cheese a year. Packed with calories, loaded with saturated fat and teeming in highly addictive casomorphins, it's a habit that's intimately linked to obesity and a litany of chronic illnesses, including heart disease and type-2 diabetes. It's a habit that wrecks significant havoc on the environment, polluting our skies and poisoning our water table. And it's a habit that perpetuates unspeakable cruelty on the sentient animals it relies upon to serve its unabating appetite. nulltheless, the U.S. continues to produce more cheese and dairy products than any other country in the world. Relentless, well-funded dairy industry lobbying efforts have entrenched government subsidies that not only incentivize production but even quietly fund corporate product development and marketing efforts, such as Pizza Hut's infamous grilled cheese stuffed crust pizza, McDonald's McCafé products and even Starbucks smoothies — all products specifically produced, developed and marketed to increase consumer dairy consumption courtesy of the federal funded and USDA regulated dairy checkoff program. It's time to stop the insanity. So let's talk about it. I can think of no better steward to facilitate a conversation on this subject than my good friend Neal Barnard, M.D. A pre-eminent authority on diet and nutrition and its impact on illnesses such as atherosclerosis, diabetes, cancer and Alzheimer’s, Neal is the founder & president of The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), where he leads programs advocating for preventive medicine, good nutrition, and higher ethical standards in research, and the Barnard Medical Center, a ground-breaking non-profit primary care medical practice where board-certified physicians, nurse practitioners, and registered dietitians help patients prevent and reverse serious health problems, leveraging a holistic approach that involves tackling the actual causes of illness, with extra attention on nutrition. Neal is also an adjunct associate professor of medicine at George Washington University and has authored over 70 scientific publications as well as 18 books, including the New York Times best-sellers Power Foods for the Brain*,21-Day Weight Loss Kickstart*, the USA Today best-seller Dr. Barnard’s Program for Reversing Diabetes* and the subject of today’s conversation... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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To see the truth of it, you just have to look at a country like Japan or China, where these

0:05.4

are non-dairy-consuming countries.

0:08.0

And they really weren't eating much meat.

0:09.3

Meat was kind of a flavoring for the rice and noodles and vegetables and so forth.

0:15.5

And back in 1980, diabetes was rare in Japan.

0:18.4

It was between 1% and 5% of the adult population.

0:21.7

McDonald's came in, fast food chains came in, meat came in in a big way, and cheese and

0:26.3

dairy started to follow some of the people in Japan initially and then China afterward

0:32.3

started to say, okay, we need to drink milk so that we're strong like Americans are.

0:37.6

And what they've gotten is diabetes rates went up to now 11 to 12% in Japan by 1990.

0:45.1

Diabetes is massive now in China.

0:47.4

Cardiovascular disease, I'm talking heart disease.

0:49.6

Huge in China.

0:52.1

And it's not because of rice.

0:55.0

This Dr. Neal Bernard and this is the Retroll Podcast.

1:02.0

The Retroll Podcast.

1:13.2

I'm in Miami right now.

1:14.2

I'm in a hotel room.

1:15.2

Can you hear all the ruckus outside my door?

1:18.2

I don't know what's going on right now, but it is Friday afternoon.

1:22.6

I have a feeling that this hotel turns into sort of like party time, like ground zero

1:27.8

for partying.

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