Hey everybody, it's Chris, got a new interview for you today with Michael Donaldson, Dr. Michael

Donaldson, PhD, nutrition, science, researcher, expert.

I first became aware of Michael, man, I mean, it was 2004 maybe because I think, and correct me if I'm

wrong, I think at that time you were

associated with George malchamist and Hallelujah Acres there was a relationship then back then

right yeah we're still together yeah so you've been you've been around the you know

raw food movement and community for a very long time.

You've published papers. I'm excited to dig in. And I've been wanting to talk to you for a very long time.

And here we are. So thanks for taking the time to do this.

All right, great. Glad to have a conversation with you, Chris.

Yeah. So how did, let's start with

your origin story. How did you get into the raw food movement? This began back when I was in

college, in graduate school, really. And I just gotten married and my wife was expecting her first

baby. And it wasn't going so well and she

kind of struggled through it and we want to have children we believe god you know called children a

blessing so let's let's go we have children here and it didn't work for all she tried to be six

shots and things like that and second baby she's carrying around a toddler and a baby, it wasn't going to

very well. But the third baby here, like she said, we have to try something different because

what we're trying here is this is, we want to have more kids. And if we don't do something

different, we're just going to have to stop or something here. Someone loaned us a tape from

Joel Robbins, the chiropractor called Juicing for Health.

So we looked at that, we listened to it.

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