Welcome to the Eric Metaxa show.

They say it's a thin line between love and hate, but we're working every day to thicken that line, or at least to make it a double or triple line.

Now here's your line jumping host, Eric Mat, Texas.

Typically, we frame Socrates conversations with a question.

Today, given the subject of the book, the question is, I guess, centers around the problem of evil.

What is evil?

I have as my guest, Michael Caperelli.

Michael, welcome.

Thank you for being here.

Big fan.

Listen, you've written a book.

There's a lot to say.

I'll just try to get us started here by saying that we're going to be talking about you did 100 hours of interview with David Berkowitz, formerly known as the son of Sam serial killer from the mid-70s. I remember it well. I grew up in New York City. The title of

book is Monster Mirror. You have a PhD in Advanced Studies in Human Behavior and your

behavioral science professor. So we're going to be talking about mental health. We're going to be

talking about the story of the son of Sam.

I remember it so well, but it dawned on me just yesterday that many people who aren't as old as I am don't know anything about this.

So I want to start, if you would, you know, and I can help you,

but to people who don't know anything about this man, David Berkowitz, who was known in the 70s as the son of Sam serial killer,

tell me in the audience, you know, what's the story? What happened in the 70s? Who is

this guy? And why do we know about the son of Sam? Well, David Berkowitz provoked the largest manhunt

in New York City history. There are about 280 police officers, NYPD, that formed what was known as the Omega Task Force,

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