Dr. Michael Caparelli (Continued)
The Eric Metaxas Show
Salem Podcast Network
4.6 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 24 June 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
What is evil—and can even the most depraved among us find redemption? In this profoundly moving conversation, Socrates in the City host Eric Metaxas sits down with Dr. Michael Caparelli, author of Monster Mirror, to explore the dark and sobering case of David Berkowitz—the notorious “Son of Sam” serial killer. Caparelli, who spent over 100 hours interviewing Berkowitz in prison, offers a rare glimpse into the mind of a man who once claimed to be possessed by the devil but now professes a deep Christian faith.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show. |
| 0:13.0 | It's a nutritious smoothie of creamy, fresh yogurt, vanilla protein powder, and a mushy banana. |
| 0:19.9 | For your mind? Drink it all down down it's nummy i wub |
| 0:24.4 | vanilla i wop i wopanella here comes eric metaxus now this might sound freaky to the listeners |
| 0:32.5 | and they'll go you know what is this devil stuff that has nothing to do with me i think we come |
| 0:37.1 | more in contact with the I think we come more in |
| 0:37.5 | contact with the demonic than we even realize for instance you behave out of |
| 0:42.9 | character you say something you shouldn't say you punch a wall you kick a cat |
| 0:47.8 | whatever it is you do and then when you're done what do you say when you |
| 0:51.3 | apologize you say I don't know what got into me I'm |
| 0:54.2 | sorry I don't know what possessed me or you say I got carried away that's |
| 1:00.0 | interesting vernacular it almost insinuates a paranormal energy that met you at your |
| 1:05.3 | the intersection between your choice and whatever that thing was and whipped up your |
| 1:10.7 | irritation into rage, |
| 1:12.8 | took the emotion to another level. |
| 1:15.3 | So I think as otherworldly as this sounds, |
| 1:19.0 | I think most people, whether they realize it or not, |
| 1:22.4 | are interacting with the spiritual realm |
| 1:24.4 | and may even come under, I wouldn't say possession, but come under the |
| 1:28.4 | influence of it and behave in ways that they would never calculate, ways that they would |
| 1:32.5 | never see themselves behaving. |
| 1:33.7 | Well, one of the reasons I want to have this conversation, anybody who discounts the spiritual, |
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