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Dr. Margaret Rutherford: ...that perfectionism is a problem

Nobody Told Me!

Nobody Told Me!

Entrepreneurship, Business

4.2671 Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Are you someone who appears to have a perfect life on the outside, but inward you struggle with depression? Have you become an expert at hiding your emotional pain from others?  Our guest on this episode, clinical psychologist Dr. Margaret Rutherford, is an expert on what she calls "perfectly hidden depression". She talks to us about the symptoms, the importance of identifying the syndrome early, how to take off the mask of perfectionism, and offers guidance for how to overcome it.  Her website is https://drmargaretrutherford.com/
 
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0:00.0

Welcome to Nobody Told Me.

0:13.0

I'm Laura Owens.

0:14.0

And I'm Jan Black.

0:16.0

Are you someone who appears to have a perfect life on the outside, but inward, you struggle with depression.

0:21.6

Have you become an expert at hiding your emotional pain from others?

0:24.7

Our guest on this episode, clinical psychologist Dr. Margaret Rutherford is an expert on what she

0:30.3

calls perfectly hidden depression.

0:33.0

In fact, she's written a book called Perfectly Hidden Depression, How to Break Free from the Perfectionism

0:39.2

that masks your depression.

0:41.4

Dr. thank you so much for joining us.

0:43.8

I'm absolutely delighted.

0:45.6

I'm welcome or hello from Arkansas.

0:47.9

Well, hello from San Francisco.

0:51.5

Tell us more about how you define perfectly hidden depression.

0:56.6

Sure, that's a great question. You know, it's different. Depression, classic depression,

1:03.2

has a lot of symptoms that are named in the DSM-5, and it's about anahedonia, depressed mood,

1:10.3

helplessness, hopelessness, problems in thinking,

1:13.8

sleep disturbance, all that kind of thing is classic depression.

1:17.6

When I wrote my first blog post, which is I happened to use the term perfectly hidden

1:22.6

depression, it was quite a random thing, actually.

1:26.5

I was trying to describe this subset of people who come into therapy, and the last thing

1:32.9

they would tell you is that they're depressed.

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