In California, we have earthquake drills.

I remember we were supposed to get under our desk in case of a nuclear attack.

Getting under your desk was the go-to behavior, regardless of what happened.

But you know what? We didn't have shooter drills, and every school now has shooter drills.

We did not have a pandemic.

I want the church and the family to be a place where we can discuss those fears.

Welcome to the Good Faith podcast on your host, Curtis Chang.

And the Good Faith podcast is where friends who follow Jesus help each other make sense of the world.

And we have our founding friend, David French, coming back here on the Good Faith podcast.

First before I set the stage for Kara Powell, our guest, I want to explain the particular angle we're talking about our kids today, which is we want to focus on teen anxiety.

And I've been doing a lot of work, as you know, David, on anxiety among adults.

It's something that I think is hugely important as well.

And it's probably related to the teen anxiety issue,

although I think it's a distinct issue.

On my angle has been that on twofold, one,

as somebody who has suffered from anxiety myself

and listeners of the podcasts,

know I've told a story about how

15 years ago anxiety was to some extent responsible for my end of my career as a pastor.

I've been reflecting a long time on the spiritual meaning of anxiety.

And with the perspective that I think as a church, we have not helpfully equipped our people to

deal with anxiety, that we have tended to either over-spiritualize it in the sense of almost

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