Welcome to the Commian podcast. My name is Jeff Krasnow. Today I am joined by Dr. Jessica

Nurik. Jessica is a registered dietitian with a PhD in nutrition science and has spent the last

decade working on the wellness side of health care in the research lab, in clinical care, and with innovative medical tech startups.

Jessica has also become a prominent figure on the IG, emerging as one of the most vocal critics of the Maha movement.

And to be clear, this is not because she doesn't share many of the same goals of the Maha movement. And to be clear, this is not because she doesn't share many of the

same goals of the Maha movement, particularly around the broken food system in America. It's that

she believes, among other things, that the performative winds of the movement are obscuring and laundering

a darker agenda that is being perpetrated by this administration. And largely, I agree,

as you will hear, Jessica and I unpack many of the current administration's policies

that are making Americans patently unhealthier. Now, this is a highly personal issue for me,

hence the longer preamble, as I've worked with so many

of the doctors and experts that now identify with the Maha movement, folks like Mark Hyman

and Will Cole, Casey Means, and Dave Asprey, who's not a doctor, but you get the idea,

and many others. And this is where Jessica and I diverge a bit. Jessica is a very articulate human

whose content leverages gold standard studies

and sound scientific research.

But she posts some pretty aggressive,

personal takedowns now and then.

Maybe I'm just more forgiving

because I know these people

and count them as friends,

but I really think that folks like Mark and others have been fighting the good fight for years.

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