Species, unite, unite. We sat down and we ordered oma kasey, which is essentially you know the chef's

specialties and they just keep bringing food out until you say I'm done.

So we ate and ate everything you can imagine.

The better part of three hours before we even dared to order whale. Whal. Hi, I'm Elizabeth Novigrats, this is Species Unite.

We have a favor to ask if you like today's episode

and you have a spare minute,

could you please rate and review Species Unite

on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to

podcasts? It really helps people to find the show. This conversation is with Dr. Heather Rolly.

Heather spent the last decade at the PETA Foundation as a supervising veterinarian for

captive animal law enforcement. What that means is she led investigative and

enforcement actions in cases of abuse of animals in roadside

zoos, circuses, pretty much any captive animal exhibits in the United States and

there are a lot of them. But her training is in marine mammals. For seven years

Heather worked alongside the Oceanic Preservation Society to document and

expose environmental crimes and animal welfare violations throughout the world.

She did undercover investigations for the documentary film Racing Extinction, and by doing so she

helped expose and put an end to the illegal sale of endangered species and brought global

attention to the exponential rate of extinction that's happening on the planet today.

If you haven't seen it, you really should. Hi, it's really cool to meet you.

Yeah, it's a pleasure to be here.

Thanks for having me.

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