Dr. Gary Chapman is an author, speaker, and counselor who has a passion for helping people form lasting relationships.

He's a New York Times best-selling author, and he's known all over the world for his book, The Five Love Languages.

Dr. Chapman is also a well-known marriage counselor and a director of marriage seminars.

His nationally syndicated radio programs

air on the Moody Radio Network and on more than 400 affiliate stations. Gary, thanks so much

for joining us on Takeaways. I've really been looking forward to you coming on the program.

Well, thank you, Kirk. I am glad to be with you. We've talked before, Gary, and I can't tell you how much I appreciate your book,

The Five Love Languages. And you've got new books all the time, and we're going to be talking

about one today, about the five languages of apology. I can't wait to do that. But I have to ask

you, you speak toward those in broken relationships like you know what you're talking about.

You have such a passion to help people heal relationships.

Where did you get that from?

You know, I think it came from the early days of my own marriage

because my wife and I struggled greatly in the early days of our marriage.

And we were both Christians.

I was actually in seminary studying to of our marriage. And we were both Christians. You know, I was actually in seminary, studying to be a pastor.

And I think because we went through that, it gave me great empathy for people who are struggling.

So when they sit in my office and say, we have no hope for our marriage, I remember when I didn't have any hope for my marriage.

And so I sometimes say to them, I can understand that.

So why don't you go on my hope?

Because I have hope for you.

Let's go on my hope and let's see what can happen.

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