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🗓️ 20 October 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Is what we call "normal" actually healthy—or just common? In this powerful episode, Dr. Daniel Amen and Tana Amen sit down with world-renowned physician and bestselling author Dr. Gabor Maté to explore how trauma, stress, and childhood experiences shape our health, addictions, and even our immune system. Dr. Maté explains why depression and anxiety aren't simply "diseases," how suppressed emotions harm the body, and why addictions are not about the drug or behavior—but about unhealed pain. You'll hear deep insights on boundaries, the hidden costs of saying "yes," why so many of us struggle in silence, and how true healing begins with connection. This conversation will challenge everything you think you know about mental health—and give you hope for change.
Dr. Maté's new book, The Myth of Normal:
https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Normal-Illness-Healing-Culture/dp/0593083881
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| 0:00.0 | You had trouble saying no to other people's expectations. |
| 0:02.0 | You tended to take responsibility for everybody else. |
| 0:04.0 | You had trouble expressing healthy anger. |
| 0:06.0 | Oof. Yeah. |
| 0:08.0 | You probably had this belief that you're responsible other people's emotions, |
| 0:12.0 | and you must never disappoint anybody. |
| 0:14.0 | This is all the result of child of trauma. |
| 0:16.0 | And these four traits that I just listed are characteristic of people with malignancy and autoimmune disease. |
| 0:20.0 | Wow. And I'd both. |
| 0:21.6 | Go over those four again. |
| 0:23.6 | Okay. |
| 0:24.6 | So, um... |
| 0:25.6 | Dr. Gabor Maté is a world-renowned physician and best-selling author. |
| 0:29.6 | He has a background in family practice and a special interest in childhood development and trauma. |
| 0:33.6 | He has written five books exploring topics including ADHD. Stress, developmental psychology, and trauma. He has written five books exploring topics including ADHD, |
| 0:38.3 | Stress, developmental psychology, and addiction. |
| 0:41.3 | The role of the know is to protect your boundaries. |
| 0:43.3 | If I invade your space, you better get angry. |
| 0:46.3 | The role of emotions basically is to allow in what is healthy and nurturing and to keep |
| 0:51.3 | out what is not. |
| 0:52.3 | What's the role of the immune system? The same thing. |
| 0:55.0 | Right. |
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