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The Russell Moore Show

Dr. Eddie S. Glaude Jr. on Love, Rage, and the American Experiment

The Russell Moore Show

Russell Moore

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Two men from Mississippi’s Gulf Coast wonder if America is finally willing to grow up. Watch this conversation on YouTube As we approach America’s 250th anniversary, Russell is joined by fellow southern Mississippi native and public intellectual Dr. Eddie S. Glaude Jr. to talk about race, memory, patriotism, and the stories nations tell themselves in order to avoid repentance.  Drawing from his new book America, USA: How Race Shadows the Nation's Anniversaries, Glaude argues that the danger facing the country is not simply historical ignorance, but a “storybook” version of America that shields us from confronting what is broken underneath.  While talking about Baldwin, Bellah, Bonhoeffer, Toni Morrison, and the civil rights movement, the two explore the tension between love of country and idolatry of nation, the persistence of racial inequality, and why prophetic truth-telling requires both courage and hope.  Ultimately, Glaude’s message asks more questions than it answers, but gently ushers us toward love, reconciliation, and redemption at a time when we really need it. Keep up with Russell: Subscribe to Russell on Substack Sign up for the weekly Moore to the Point newsletter  Submit a question for the show at questions@russellmoore.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We can acknowledge the horrors, but, you know, I don't think we should throw away people.

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There's always room for redemption.

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Hello, this is Russell Moore, and this is the Russell Moore Show, brought to you by Christianity Today.

0:55.2

Here, we look for signposts in a strange time by standing fast to what really matters.

1:01.9

Kingdom over culture wars, truth over tribalism, pilgrimage over partisanship, sanity over cynicism,

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witness over winning, and Christ over everything.

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Today we have a conversation to do just that.

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This year we've been looking quite a bit at the 250th anniversary of the United States of America,

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looking at that as to how do we as Christians

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have a sense of gratitude for our country and a sense of genuine patriotism without idolatry

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of the nation?

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We all know that's possible to do because we love our mom, we love our dad, and we don't

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think that they're perfect. Can we do that with our country? There's a new book that has come out,

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