The Today I'm meeting with Dr Jettma Kutman.

Dr Jettman has been working with Oliver Wyman for nearly 14 years.

Dr. Jettman, and I hope you don't mind me shortening slightly the name right now is a partner at

Oliver Wyman in Munich and a member of the insurance and the digital practice

where the team that Dr. Jetman's works with produced some of the most interesting research and we'll go into it in a few moments.

Dr. Jetman has more than 20 years of management and strategy consulting experience.

His core competence for me based on what I read is IT, strategy, operational strategy,

digitization and organizational change.

Dr. Jetman leads insurance in the DAC region and is the Oliver Weiman lead

author of the Insciotech Radar series which I want to talk about today. So first Dr.

Jettman, can I call you Detma? You know what's been actually it sounds so

funny to be called doctor. I'm basically not hearing that for I don't know what the last 10, 15 years and so on. You know that Germany very often is known for its conservative culture, but you can absolutely kill the doctor.

So my name is Dietmar, yours is Ab bean, let's stay on a first name basis for today. I'm very

excited to be with you today as a B. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. So you know I took CV, so I provided the CV, what I know about you, what you shared with me. But, you know, for a listener, tell us a little bit more about you as a professional, but as an everyday person?

More than happy.

So I basically started my career on the dirt side of the universe.

So I was back at school already playing with computers,

programming, selling programs, going back

to the times of whoever remembers it a singular settings 81, so really the early 80s.

And then obviously started my career in studying and also doing a PhD in computer science.

When I realized that the world is not acting like a computer,

but there are more exciting pieces someplace else. And then I was looking really for a career that

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