It's not about living to be 86 instead of 85, but that doesn't really motivate most people.

It's about, oh, for someone who's got sets of their heart disease that they can't walk

across the street without getting injured or chest pain or make love with their spouse

or play with their kids within a few weeks.

In most cases, we've found that most people can do all those things.

Welcome to the Exam Room Podcast brought to you by the Physicians Committee.

Hi, I am the Weight Loss Champion Chuck Carroll.

Thank you so very much for raising your health IQ with us in more than 130 countries around the world.

Croatia, Bolivia, India, and all places in between.

We appreciate you helping to make the world a healthier place.

This is episode two of season five, number 301 overall.

Today we are going to be joined by someone who has been leading a health revolution for decades.

His work has inspired millions and proven to be a miracle, what some would say, for those with heart disease.

But Dr. Dean Ornish will be the first to tell you that a prescription for intensive lifestyle and diet changes is not a miracle.

It is simply eliminating the leading causes of a disease that will claim one out of every four lives in the United States.

That is 659,000 people a year, 1,805 every day, and more than one every minute.

And many of those deaths are the result of a lifetime of unhealthy eating coupled with spending every day sitting at a desk and every night sitting on the couch.

That lifestyle is quite literally a preventable prescription for death.

And yet, it is the way that the majority of us are living our lives.

Why, though, should we choose to be sedentary overweight ticking time bombs when there is a healthier way,

a way that Dr. Ornish has helped bring to light a way that can help even those who have spent decades

fueling up on fast food and not moving their body.

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