Hey there and welcome to Not Just Paleo. I'm Evan Brand, your host, and today I think is the first

official day of cold weather here in Austin. We finally got our first taste of fall. I'm wearing my jacket,

but I don't mind it at all. It's nice to have some change of seasons after the brutal summers

here. So anyways, today with Dr. David

Nichols, he's a guy who created a chemical called DMT, dimethlytletriptamine. It's produced in our brains

naturally. He created this chemical for a researcher and Dr. Rick Strassman, who wrote the book, D.M.T. The Spirit Molecule, where he documents

the use of this chemical that's produced in our brains, and what patients experience when they

get it in a supplemental form. So it's interesting. We got a little off topic here, but it's still interesting episode

nonetheless and talk about some of the history of the drug war and things like that. So in the meantime,

check out not just paleo.com and look around. My wellness program is coming very, very soon. So I hope

you're excited. I am with pharmacologist Dr. David Nichols,

who I found from an interview

where Dr. Rick Strassman,

the author of one of my favorite books,

The Spirit Molecule,

Mr. Nichols was the pharmacologist that was helping Dr. Strassman and some of his research

and helping get the actual raw materials needed for his trials. And I was just fascinated by

the whole story. And, uh, we're going to get into that today. So, uh, thank you for joining me.

Sure. And let me correct that a little bit.

I'm actually a medicinal chemist and a pharmacologist,

so I did synthetic chemistry and also pharmacology.

Oh, okay.

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