I think part of the problem is had we as a nation responded more appropriately, we would be in a much better position like Germany, for example, to reopen more safely and to restart sports more safely.

But unfortunately, we just did not have the resolve to do that.

Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast.

I'm Dave Ziron.

This week we have a renowned doctor and medical journalist who specializes in infectious disease and global health and has been all over CNN as a COVID expert.

We're really lucky to have her on the show.

Her name is Dr. Celine Gounder.

We're going to talk about the reopening of the sports world and we're going to keep it medical.

Also, we've got some choice words about the NFL and their plans to reopen.

Just stand up and just sit your ass down and more.

But first, let's talk to Dr. Celine Gounder.

First and foremost, just how are you doing? How's your family? How's everybody?

Because you've been in a very, you know, high-risk situation.

I'm good. I'm good. I'm healthy, have been healthy.

I actually, as part of my work stuff, have been healthy. I actually, as part of my work stuff, have been tested,

my antibody test was negative.

So the hospital is offering testing to employees,

obviously because we're high risk and exposed.

And part of the reason is also to figure out

which types of employees are more exposed

and what changes that might imply, you know,

for infection control and personal protective equipment.

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