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Dr. BJ Miller and Shoshana Berger: ...how to face your own mortality

Nobody Told Me!

Nobody Told Me!

Business, Entrepreneurship

4.2671 Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2021

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Death is not an easy subject to talk about, but it’s a fact of life. We will all die someday, and between now and then, we’ll have family and friends who will die. So, how can we help those close to us who are facing death and how can we best prepare for our own lives to end? We’ll explore those questions on this episode with Dr. BJ Miller and Shoshana Berger, who are the co-authors of the book, A Beginner’s Guide to the End: Practical Advice for Living Life and Facing Death. It’s described as, “The first-ever practical, compassionate, and comprehensive guide to dying—and living fully until you do”. 


Dr. BJ Miller is the president and a counselor at his own palliative care company, Mettle Health, which you can learn about by going to https://www.mettlehealth.com.


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0:00.0

Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Jan Black.

0:14.5

And I'm Laura Owens.

0:16.4

Death is not an easy subject to talk about, but it's a fact of life. We will all die someday,

0:22.6

and between now and then, we'll have family and friends who will die. So how can we help those

0:28.2

close to us who are facing death, and how can we best prepare for our own lives to end?

0:34.0

We'll explore those questions on this episode with Dr. B.J. Miller and Shoshana Berger,

0:39.1

who are the co-authors of the book, A Beginner's Guide to the End, Practical Advice for Living

0:44.4

Life and Facing Death. It's described as the first ever practical, compassionate, and

0:50.0

comprehensive guide to dying and living fully until you do. Dr. Miller is an assistant clinical

0:55.7

professor of medicine at the University of California at San Francisco, where he practices and teaches

1:01.3

palliative medicine. He has his own serious brush with death to talk about as well because of an

1:07.0

accident that occurred when he was in college. it resulted in the amputation of one arm

1:12.2

below the elbow and both legs below the knees. Shoshana is the global editorial director at

1:18.5

IDEO, where she has worked on end-of-life projects and was a caregiver during her father's

1:24.3

five-year decline with an incurable illness. B.J. and Shoshana, thank you so much for joining us today.

1:30.7

Thank you for having us.

1:32.3

Tell us a little bit about your backgrounds and why you guys decided to write this book together.

1:37.6

Shoshan and I met a couple different angles working on this subject one way or another at IDO.

1:43.5

And we had a bunch of experiences together there,

1:46.7

and we got to know each other a little bit and got to explore the subject pretty open-endedly.

1:52.0

And when Shoshana brought up the idea of writing a book together, it was a pretty quick, easy yes,

1:58.2

because I knew the world needed a book like this and it felt right to work with

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