Welcome to the Kido Camp podcast. This week's quote comes from Benjamin Bickman.

When ketones are up, fat cells begin shifting their actions. Welcome back to the Kito Camp podcast. I'm your host Benazotti, founder of Kito Camp.

You can learn more at YouTube.com slash Keto Camp. On today's

episode we have Dr. Benjamin Bickman who is a pathophysiology and

biomedical scientist over at Brigham Young University in Utah and he's a

brilliant scientist that I've been studying for quite a while and he talks in this

episode all about insulin,

insulin and its relationship to ketogenesis and burning fat and storing fat.

So he talks about the liver, he talks about insulin, when you have high insulin levels, it correlates to having what?

Low ketones to no ketone levels.

They have, it's like kind of like this teeter-totter relationships.

It's an inverted relationship.

When one is up, the other one is down, and vice versa.

And he really does a great job at breaking down a very complicated system the human body is with the liver and

insulin and something called brown adipose tissue versus white adipose tissue and the mitochondria, how brown fat burns more calories because it's mitochondrial dense.

So we like brown fat. Brown's fat is our friend. However, when you have high insulin levels,

guess what happens? That brown fat starts shifting and it

converts to white fat white fat we don't like it so much it's around our belly

the love handles we have which which by the way, I don't know why they're called love handles. I guess because people love to squeeze them. But yeah, that's the stuff we don't like. When we start burning, when we start shifting into having more brown fat, we burn more calories.

We start losing some of that body fat that we don't want. And when we produce ketones,

gets what happens.

Our white fat converts to brown fat.

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