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Dr. Avi Loeb: The Search for Alien Artifacts on Earth

Earth Ancients

Cliff Dunning

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science

4.6 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2022

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Scooping Interstellar Fragments from the Ocean Floor

Albert Einstein famously argued in a letter to the physicist Max Born in December 1926 that God does not play dice. The letter referred to the probabilistic nature of Quantum Mechanics but it can also be interpreted more broadly as if nature does not make random choices. In fact, it is the duty of a scientist to make sense of nature’s choices. Otherwise, reality looks random to those who do not understand it. Weather was perceived this way before satellite and ground-based data allowed modern science to make weather forecasts a week in advance. The fundamental insight we learned as an advanced scientific civilization is that we should be guided by evidence rather than prejudice. The range of possibilities, as often imagined in mathematics or science fiction stories, is far greater and sometimes has no overlap with what is actually realized in nature.

On April 6, 2022, the United States Space Command tweeted a formal letter confirming that a meteor identified in the CNEOS catalog by my student Amir Siraj and me in 2019 as originating from outside the Solar system based on its high speed, is indeed interstellar. The meteor detection on January 8, 2014 predated the first reported interstellar object, `Oumuamua, by almost four years and should be recognized as the first interstellar object ever discovered. The meteor paper was initially doubted because the uncertainties in the velocity measurements were classified. The release of the confirmation letter is a watershed moment in which the government assists scientific progress by confirming the interstellar origin of this so-called CNEOS-2014–01–08 meteor at the 99.999% confidence.
Our discovery of an interstellar meteor heralds a new research frontier, in which the Earth serves as a fishing net for massive interstellar objects. As a result of encountering Earth and rubbing against its atmosphere, an interstellar object burns up in a bright fireball. This fireball is detectable by satellites or ground-based sensors even for relatively small interstellar objects like CNEOS-2014–01–08, which was about a meter in size and created a fireball carrying a percent of the energy of the Hiroshima bomb. This size scale is a hundred times smaller than `Oumuamua, which was discovered by the Pan STARRS telescope through its reflection of sunlight. This alternative detection method allows existing survey telescopes to discover only objects larger than a football field, within the orbit of the Earth around the Sun.
There should be a million objects as small as CNEOS-2014–01–08 within that volume for every `Oumuamua-size object, but only a tiny fraction of them is seen as meteors because of the small size of our “fishing net”, the Earth. The situation is analogous to finding many more small fish than whales in the ocean. But we should also keep in mind that most meteors originate from the Solar system, but the interstellar ones can be flagged by their high speeds.

The interstellar meteor discovery is very important from another perspective. One can imagine a billion dollar mission to land on an interstellar object like `Oumuamua and return a sample of it to Earth, similar to the OSIRIS-REx mission that landed on the asteroid Bennu and will return material from it in September 2023. But at a cost that is ten thousand times smaller, one could scoop fragments left over from an interstellar meteor and study them in our laboratories.

The debris from CNEOS-2014–01–08 landed on the ocean floor near Papua New Guinea and it is possible to scoop them with a magnet. Once collected, we could place our hands around sizeable chunks of interstellar matter and examine its composition and nature. The ocean on site is a couple of kilometers deep and the impact region is uncertain to within ten kilometers. But an expedition to explore this region for meteor fragments is feasible and we are currently engaged in designing it.

The fundamental question is whether any interstellar meteor might indicate a composition that is unambiguously artificial in origin? Better still, perhaps some technological components would survive the impact. My dream is to press some buttons on a functional piece of equipment which was manufactured outside of Earth.
This gives a whole new meaning to a “fishing expedition”; in this case, of extraterrestrial equipment.

In February 1954, just 14 months before he died, Einstein wrote a letter to the physicist David Bohm, in which he stated: “If God created the world, his primary concern was certainly not to make its understanding easy for us.” I wonder whether our expedition to Papua New Guinea might replace the word `God’ in Einstein’s statements by the term `an advanced scientific civilization’.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Avi Loeb is the head of the Galileo Project, founding director of Harvard University’s — Black Hole Initiative, director of the Institute for Theory and Computation at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, and the former chair of the astronomy department at Harvard University (2011–2020). He chairs the advisory board for the Breakthrough Starshot project, and is a former member of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology and a former chair of the Board on Physics and Astronomy of the National Academies. He is the bestselling author of “Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth” and a co-author of the textbook “Life in the Cosmos”, both published in 2021.

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0:00.0

I've always felt that we needed to have more transparency from the United States Space

0:06.4

Command, NASA, JPL, on just what is happening in our cosmos, even in the orbit of our planet,

0:16.5

be it Earthlets, be it foreign objects, whatever it is, we need to know more about it, and we're

0:23.5

talking UAPs, which used to be UFOs, or more importantly, what Dr. A.V. Loeb calls alien probes

0:34.5

or alien artifacts. This week we're reviewing an article by Dr. A.V. Loeb, which was reported

0:41.1

in major publications that he is investigating new alien artifacts or alien technology that

0:49.6

have landed on Earth. This is a new discovery and a bit of research that he started back in January

0:57.5

of 2014. Today we get the inside story on just what he discovered, how he's going about collecting

1:06.1

these new artifacts, and what this tells us about interstellar artifacts. These are artifacts

1:12.5

that come from beyond our cosmos at great rates of speed and typically burn up in our atmosphere,

1:20.9

but in this case, this artifact actually landed in our ocean. All this and more on Earth Asians.

1:42.5

For Saturday, April 30th, 2022, this is Earth Ancients. I'm your host,

2:12.9

Cliff Dunning. We got some exciting news this week. There was an article in the Daily News that read

2:23.0

Harvard scientists to launch an investigation into alien technology. I posted it on the Facebook

2:29.3

page, and guess what, Dr. A.V. Loeb was happy to speak with me yesterday. It's such a pleasure

2:39.7

speaking with him. He's so transparent, so open to ideas that are not mainstream, and this makes

2:46.8

him a celebrity in my mind. Here's an astrophysicist, the head of the satellite array, Harvard

2:54.5

astronomer, who is actually open and receptive to the possibilities that we are being not only observed

3:02.5

by ancient or perhaps current alien civilizations, but it seems to me that, and I'm going to post

3:11.7

this article here in a bit, but it seems to me that this is a real change in the attitudes of our

3:22.1

astronomers. We're talking about NASA, JPL, and the United States Space Command. Now, I don't know if

3:29.8

this bleeds into the European Space Agency or the Chinese or anything else, but for decades,

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