What's up everybody and welcome back to Gear 30 on the Blister Podcast Network. I'm Jonathan Ellsworth

and you can check out everything we're doing and reviewing over at blisterreview.com. And that includes

the brand lineup videos that we shot at our last blister summit the first of

those conversations is live on our youtube channel you can also find it on our website so go to

blister review on youtube and you'll find us it was a great conversation with jed yizer about K2 skis. So go check that out and all

of the other videos we have up from the Blister Summit and we've got a whole lot more of those

coming down the pipeline. And right now, we have another really interesting conversation for

you.

We thought it was time to get a bit of a state of the union on DPS.

There have been a lot of changes at DPS over the last several years.

So joining me today is Tumas Loxo, who is the VP of Product and Operations for DPS.

And Tumas and I, well, we first talk quite a bit about his own very interesting background. But then we kind of dive in and like I said,

get a bit of the state of the union at DPS and how things have evolved over the last several years.

We talk about some of the specific skis in their product lineup. I asked

Tumas to basically give a defense of carbon fiber and why he still sees carbon fiber as a

really interesting material to make kind of a principal staple of the DPS lineup. In other fun stuff, Tumas also helped me figure out what I think is kind of a new rule

for product design that I would encourage all companies out there to adopt.

So you're going to hear more about that.

And then we kind of wrap up by talking a bit about phantom and the evolution of phantom

and where that is today so that is what we have in store for you right now and so let's get to it

here we go well tumus how are you today and where are you today?

I would say that I'm in the middle of winter, but it's early May and it keeps snowing.

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