It's a big thing for British sports stars, film stars, bands, journalists to try and

crack America.

If you're a Brit, it's kind of a big deal.

But while many people try and do it, most of them fail.

One exception is Medi Hassan, he's a journalist who started his career at the BBC before moving

on to the new Statesman.

But today he's one of the most popular political journalists in the United States and he hosts

a show on MSNBC.

He's just published this new book, win every argument, the artebating, persuading and

public speaking.

And I have to say it's a very good book written by somebody who is among the best of the

best when it comes to persuasion.

Medi Hassan, welcome to Downstream.

You made your mark in the UK in the late 2000s, early 2010s.

You've since moved over to the United States for people, the very few people who aren't familiar

with your work.

You're like a political megastar over the night, you're a MSNBC host.

Why did you go to the US and tell us a little bit about this unusual trajectory?

It is a little unusual and I haven't really worked it out myself.

I kind of look back at something and I ended up here, I ended up there.

I mean, the short story of why I moved to the US is I married an American who spent

10 years in the UK and said, I've done my time.

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