Downstream: The Right Is Winning. Here’s How We Change That w/ Ash Sarkar
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🗓️ 23 March 2026
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
Aaron Bastani sat down with Novara Media’s own Ash Sarkar, to celebrate the paperback release of her bestselling book, Minority Rule. ‘Minority rule’ is the term Ash used to describe the irrational fear that minorities are trying to overturn and oppress majority populations. She revealed how minority elites rule majorities by creating the culture wars that have taken over our politics, stoking fear and panic in our media landscape.
Together before a live audience at EartH Hackney, Ash and Aaron dug into the question of what has changed since the book was published. What can be learned from Zohran Mamdani’s win in New York? Does the left hate Britain? What do we need to do, in order to establish a ‘majority rule’? And is there such a thing as a middle-class dog?
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| 0:00.0 | Good evening, everyone. |
| 0:09.7 | We're talking about the right and why they're winning. |
| 0:13.7 | I mean, they're winning so much I've started to dress like them. |
| 0:18.2 | And this doesn't even include the Gilles. We had to leave that out. It was too much. |
| 0:22.6 | And of course, the hook for that conversation |
| 0:26.6 | is the publication of Ash's book in paperback, Minority Rule. |
| 0:31.6 | Fabulous book, give it up for Ash. |
| 0:43.7 | I said to Ash at the time, the first 100 pages is just superb, superb, brilliant. |
| 0:50.2 | I mean, the stuff that the guys were talking about before with how the right and the political and media elite in this country spinned Chavs into the white working class from people that needed to be denigrated |
| 0:56.0 | to people that needed to be venerated on a sixpence was really extraordinary but you were the first |
| 1:00.9 | person to write about that in really forensic meticulous detail brilliant book it is available to |
| 1:06.1 | buy afterwards just a reminder um i think ash will be signing some books as well. Ash, it's lovely to be talking |
| 1:14.4 | about this book tonight. I love these events at Earth so, so much. It's like so great to be able to |
| 1:20.2 | get a chance to see you all in person. And one of the things that I love about these conversations |
| 1:25.2 | the most is that you start in one place and then you end up |
| 1:28.7 | somewhere else completely. Ash, before we talk about the right, why they're winning, if they're |
| 1:34.3 | winning, who the right even are, quickly on the book, who is it for, activists, skeptics? |
| 1:41.2 | Anyone who has a spare tenor is who it's for. I had an image in my head of the ideal reader. |
| 1:50.2 | And the ideal reader wasn't somebody who I already know. It wasn't someone who I've shared |
| 1:55.8 | political spaces with. It was this one person who I saw commenting on a Navarra media article a few years ago. |
| 2:04.3 | Now, this was an article written by my wonderful colleague, Moia Lothian McLean. |
| 2:08.4 | Some of you might listen to our podcast. |
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