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🗓️ 24 March 2025
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0:00.0 | As well as all our podcasts, articles and videos, Navarra Media also does in-person events. |
0:08.1 | The next of these will be a downstream IRL featuring Aaron Bastani in conversation with |
0:14.2 | Israeli historian Ilan Pape. They'll be talking about the legacy of Benjamin Netanyahu, |
0:20.7 | about the emergence of the Zionistahu, about the emergence of the Zionist |
0:22.0 | lobby and the future prospects of the state of Israel. |
0:26.7 | You can get your tickets on the Navarra Media website and the event will be on the 7th of April |
0:32.6 | 2025 at Earth in East London. The last several years have seen so much change when it comes to international relations |
0:52.3 | and geopolitics, from Russia's invasion of Ukraine to the war in Gaza and the election of Donald Trump. |
1:01.0 | From military spending and claims about the need to rearm to aid and whether it's needed at all, we've seen massive conversations ignited about some of the most fundamental ways we spend our money |
1:14.1 | in relation to other countries. Trade, aid, military spending and all the things in between. |
1:21.2 | I can't think of a better guest to discuss all of that plus the role of the deep states than the person opposite me today. |
1:30.7 | Matt Kennard, welcome to downstream. |
1:32.8 | Good to be here. |
1:33.8 | It's great to have you back on. |
1:35.3 | Third time? |
1:36.1 | Third time, yep. |
1:37.6 | The first time was a couple of years ago, I think. |
1:40.5 | I did one last year as well. |
1:41.9 | Yeah. |
1:42.4 | You're looking good? |
1:43.2 | Got a tan? |
1:44.0 | Yeah, just been to Brazil. Can't complain. |
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