DoubleX Gabfest: The Roving Eye Edition
The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism
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🗓️ 3 November 2011
⏱️ 39 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening AdFree on Amazon Music. |
| 0:08.2 | Hello and welcome to the Double X Gab Fest for Thursday, November 3rd. |
| 0:12.2 | I'm Hannah Rosen, editor of Double X. |
| 0:14.1 | We are joined here in the Washington studio by our special guest, National Correspondent, |
| 0:19.0 | Will Salatant. |
| 0:19.9 | Hi, Will. |
| 0:20.6 | How are you? In New York, we are joined by Double X editor Salatant. Hi, Will. How are you? In New York, |
| 0:22.2 | we are joined by double-X editor Jess Gross. Hi, Jess. Hi, Hannah. Today is the Roving Eye edition. |
| 0:28.5 | We are going to talk about three subjects. The first is the sexual harassment allegations |
| 0:32.5 | against presidential candidate Herman Kane. The second is Stephen Pinker's new book, The Better Angels of Our Nature, and particularly his argument that feminism is responsible for the drop in violence. Actually, the feminization, I should say, not feminism. And third, we are going to have a special guest. And that is Susan Arlene, one of my favorite writers ever, ever, ever, about her new book, |
| 0:54.7 | Rin Tin Tin, the Life and the Legend. So let's start with Herman Kane. As they say in the |
| 1:00.8 | left-wing filthy media, Herman Kane's free ride in this presidential campaign is over. That's how they put it. |
| 1:07.2 | He has been accused of sexually harassing two and now three women, or rather of having had sexually harassed and that there was a settlement issued by the National Restaurant Association. And I would say Herman Kane has done a terrible job of defending himself against these allegations. But maybe I'm biased here because I'm part of the left-wing filthy media. Jess, why don't you talk a little bit about what's been happening with Kane and what he said over the last week or so that this scandal has been unfolding? Sure. So the story broke on Sunday night and it was a Politico story that said that there had been two claims of sexual harassment lodged |
| 1:46.0 | against Herman Kane from when he was the head of the Restaurant Association from 1996 to 1999. |
| 1:52.9 | And since that story broke, details have been dribbling out. |
| 1:56.7 | Today there was a story in the Times about how one of these women got a $35,000 settlement. |
| 2:02.9 | One of them now wants to speak out, but the part of her settlement agreement said that she could |
| 2:07.8 | not talk about the case. So we will see if the restaurant association allows her to speak out. And now |
| 2:13.5 | for Kane's response, he has just been dissembling and he can't keep his story straight. |
| 2:20.6 | And he did this interview with Fox News's Greta Van Cestrin, who was tougher than you would expect a Fox News person to be on a GOP candidate. |
| 2:29.9 | So should we, there's so much we could talk about here. |
| 2:32.0 | I mean, we could talk about the various modes of defense that he's taken before we get into the Greta of Ancestrian interview, which was really amazing. Like at first he took the Clarence Thomas mode of defense. Right. The high tech lynching. Now, actually, before we get into that, Will, can I ask you a question? As I was listening to that, I thought, why high tech? I couldn't remember what in the Clarence Thomas years that referred to. What was the high-tech part of the lynching? Like, it makes sense if you're talking about Politico, but what was it about? Well, I think that high-tech was actually a very elegant way of saying, well, it's not actually lynching, since it's quite embarrassing. The way people throw away around terms like slavery and lynching these days to apply to the tax code, for example. So high tech means they didn't actually use rope, but they didn't actually kill me. They just sort of said bad things about me. And Herman Kane is calling this a witch hunt. Right, a witch hunt, a high tech witch. I'm going to start using high tech instead of metaphorical all the time now that I understand what it means. Now, why do you think he took the Clarence Thomas line? Like, what did that do for him? Because it clearly did something good for him by starting with that. Well, it was a way to put off the, you know, the liberal media, which is what he saw is attacking him by, you know, when you throw the race card into it, it just scrambles everything. It's not even a legitimate thing. It's sort of a curveball. And it's widely believed that, you know, it's widely felt, not believed. It's because it's a feeling that Clarence Thomas was unjustly treated. And so if you just throw out words that remind one of the Clarence Thomas hearings, you feel like you're in that same territory, as Clarence |
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