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Hello and welcome to the Double X podcast for Thursday, October 20th, the Hungry for Glory edition.

I'm Hannah Rosen, the editor of Double X. I'm here in the New York

studio today with Double X editor Jess Gross. Hi, Jess. Hi, Hannah. And our special guest today,

Noreen Malone, who was formerly of Double X and is now an editor at the Daily Intel for New York

magazine. A blogger. Sorry. Sorry. I elevated you because I had Jill Abramson on my brain.

Today we're going to talk about three topics. The first is the New York Magazine cover story by this very Noreen Malone called The Kids Are Sort of All right about the millennial generation.

Then we're going to talk about the New Yorker profile of Jill Abramson, who's the first female executive editor of the New York Times, and finally, the new crop of candidates' wives. So let's start with Noreen's story.

Noreen, congratulations. It's so awesome. It was such a beautifully written story. And this subject has been

written about so many times, but always by people my age. So they sort of clear their throats and

write about narcissism of your generation or like, you know, how you sit there with your gadgets all the time.

So it was good to have, you know, you write it instead.

I was also, you know, I've read so many of these articles and I was impressed by how well you explained the hopefulness in a way that didn't make us sound stupid.

Because usually when it's the optimism of our generation is explained, it's like, look at these stupid kids.

Don't they realize the world is falling apart?

Well, that was what was so good about it is because there are these two completely contradictory ideas out there about the millennial generation, which no one's bothered to reconcile.

One is that they have preposterous amounts of self-esteem and narcissism, and the other

is that they're completely screwed.

So it's like how, you know, and you and the way you reconciled it, which is a great phrase,

which you can explain to our listeners, which is that they were metaphysically ill-equipped

to deal with the tough shit world that they were born into. So can you

explain what you meant by that? Sure. Well, first of all, I should talk about the tough shit world,

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