Hello and welcome to Dopey on the dark comedy of drug addiction.

I'm Dave. I'm Chris. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I feel bad that I started with the dark comedy of drug addiction.

It doesn't roll off my tongue properly. How about the dark leak comedic addiction tails? No, it's dope. You know, it's funny when other people talk about Dopey.

Like I listened to, we're going to have Daniel from released into captivity on the show today. And he's talking about Dopey.

He said, Dopey on drugs addiction and stupid shit. And then somebody else said drugs addiction and something else. But nobody says dumb shit what it actually is. It's dumb shit man.

You know what I was thinking is pretty funny. What? Imagine if the greatest thing that ever happens as a Dopey is it keeps us sober.

This is the first time you had that thought. Yeah, you haven't had that before. Of course, but I had that thought as soon as we started. That was my first thought about Dopey. Really? No, but it was my 2100.

I feel like it would be the last stop gap in my real life. If I stopped doing everything, like stop doing programmers, I'm meditating all the time and I'll cause it. And just, you know, I was on it.

Did you meditate today? No, I haven't done it until I got back. It was to do an hour in the morning and an hour at night for Vibhasa. And I haven't done it until I got back.

And the whole reason I did the tune up was so I could get back into a daily practice. Let me ask you this. If they had said to you, you have to do five minutes in the morning and five minutes at night, do you think you would do that?

Yeah, that's the whole thing. I mean, I was talking to it's funny. Once you could talk on the last day, I started talking to people and there's three fucking psychotherapists at the table. I was just the passing of retreats lend themselves to people who work in mental health professions.

And I don't know if that's because we're fucked up or because we're interested in the brain and stuff. And the guy was saying, we who? We as in therapists. Now you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're not okay. I know you're going to tear that one as well. I mean, you're not a therapist.

I'm a future therapist. Okay. And so that's nice that you say we as like your therapy. I did therapy the last year in clients. And what did you talk?

What did you say to them? Tell me about your day. What? No, it was a day. What? Tell me about your day. No, it was about your day. I never say your day. Oh, she was. I was like, actually, I was doing what you were saying. Wow. I keep it. That's what your brain took it.

Tell me about your day. Yeah. Tell me about your day. No, they were fucking kids. So I like watch videos on YouTube and shit. And I just show them the therapeutic alliance and rapport. So I was just building. I figured whatever they like. And then I just should like for that. Like kids until the BMX. So it's a bunch of BMX tricks and shit. And you know, what would games you playing your phone? I download the end play. It's like it's something about it. And then you find a lot of them were like mandated to choose.

mandated to treatment through these things called IDPs. And so like, what is that stand for? It's an individualized education plan. And it's like a document that says they get services. And sometimes they have social emotional goals. So they have to get treatment. So their kids are adolescents. They don't most of them. Not most of them. But half of them don't want to be there. So you really have to figure out like a window in to working with. Would you say half of them actually do want to be there? I would say, yeah, there's sometimes, but sometimes even when they want to be there, it's for different reasons than like doing therapy. It's because they like get out.

Class or something and they're talking to you about video games. They're like, oh, and occasionally there's people that can like do the work. And sometimes it's funny. If they can do the work. If they're really good at doing the work, sometimes that's a problem on its own. It's like they're

preentified. They shouldn't be good at talking about their anxiety and their depression. Preentified. Meaning they're maybe have like tons of responsibilities. And they need to be a kid and play. And yet they're able to delve into their past. And I think we're 15 year old being like, you know, I'm using quotes.

Don't stop you nation good at therapy. That's they shouldn't be. You know, when I see that, I see the kid who's good at therapy with you. Okay. I see two enormous people pleasers coming together. You're trying to get the kids to love you. And the kid is trying to get you to love them. And it's like a beautiful dance of PayPal. No. So what what video games have you started to play because of these kids?

This one kid I played this like race car game. I mean, I remember it was called and you have to like tilt your phone to switch lanes. Right. And like you're just racing and passing people. And I didn't know you tell your phone to switch lanes. So I just go really fast and ram into the car in front of me. And I'd be like, this game fucking sucks. Did you say that?

That's not the kid I told my kid. It's kind of boring. You just like ran into the guy run into the guy in front of you. And he's like, no, you switched lanes. Like you can't. And he's like, you've to tilt your phone. I was like, oh, fuck.

Was it the bad game when she started?

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