Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up STS Nation and welcome to another live episode

of Surviving the Survivor, the podcast

that promises to bring you the very best guess

in all of true crime and a disclaimer right off the top.

Meave Moen and I, we just landed back in South Florida.

By landed, I mean we were in the car for eight plus hours. There is a torrential

rainstorm with lightning straight out of a Halloween movie and if you lose me, Tim Janssen

will take the rains and I will hop on my cell phone.

So that is the disclaimer.

The COE, who is south of me, I am coming to you from an undisclosed location in a clubhouse in Boynton Beach, Florida.

The COE has lost power in Miami.

I can see her trying to get back on.

It is Noah's Ark type flooding and rain here in South Florida. Sure it's nice and

dry up in Tallahassee, but we are going to go through a bunch of things to see how we, oh,

rain, sorry Tim, we're going to go through a bunch of things to show we oh rain sorry Tim we're going to go through a bunch of things

here from yesterday into today as most of you know I usually come pretty well prepared

with a actual rundown of things to talk about. I got out of the

car about nine minutes ago. So we're gonna have Tim and Katie and the general break

this down. Obviously you all know Tim Janssen in the name,

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