Welcome to the global phenomenon,

Surviving the Survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SDS Nation, and welcome. journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, S.T.S. Nation and welcome to another episode of surviving the survivor, the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guest in all of true crime and today you're getting

an OG Trio.

Karam is googling that right now to figure out she's talking to chat

GPT saying what is an O o g trio well you've got

uh Tim Janson Monica Jordan Tim of course famed Tallahassee defense attorney also a

federal prosecutor for five years and then a Monica Jordan a badass as my daughter Zeezy would say she's a badty she's a real badty and

she is the president founder co, co-founder, CEO, executive vice president, and senior shareholder

of what is the official name, Monica Jordan, private investigators?

No, it's Jordan researching consulting.

Monica Jordan bad-ass.

How come you don't have private investigations or investigator in your company title?

Well, it's originally started as Jordan Investigations, but when you just title yourself

is that way, it sometimes scares people and they don't want to return a phone call or if I leave a business card on their door.

So it's a little helps them not be like, oh, oh my gosh, why is an investigator wanting to talk to me?

By the way, John Singer, New York City attorney,

I guess with Fame and Fortune, comes blowing us off too because he's late four minutes late to the table and I just texted him but

Oh wait John Singer saying not letting me and hold on hold on.

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