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Catching Foxes

Done with Liturgy Wars, with Brian Jones

Catching Foxes

Luke and Gomer

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Tv & Film

4.8769 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2022

⏱️ 117 minutes

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Summary

We discuss the liturgy wars from a different framework. Not the annoying "This is more/less reverent" but rather, what are the context and conditions of our current situation that produces malformed Catholics? Why do Catholic lose their minds over the removal of silly nonessentials that get added into the liturgy where they should not be?

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  • 50 Years Ago: Changes In Mass for Greater Apostolate — 8. It is here that the greatest newness is going to be noticed, the newness of language. No longer Latin, but the spoken language will be the principal language of the Mass. The introduction of the vernacular will certainly be a great sacrifice for those who know the beauty, the power and the expressive sacrality of Latin. We are parting with the speech of the Christian centuries; we are becoming like profane intruders in the literary preserve of sacred utterance. We will lose a great part of that stupendous and incomparable artistic and spiritual thing, the Gregorian chant.
  • New Liturgical Movement: Evelyn Waugh on the Liturgical Reform: An Article in The American Conservative — Vatican II represented, in Waugh’s mind, a rejection of the needs and opinions of local people. “A vociferous minority has imposed itself on the hierarchy and made them believe that a popular demand existed where there was in fact not even a preference,” he warned.
  • Brian Jones – Catholic World Report — Brian Jones is ia Ph.D Candidate in Philosophy at the University of St. Thomas in Houston. His works have appeared in The Public Discourse, Strong Towns, and The American Conservative.
  • Jim Caviezel - IMDb — James Patrick Caviezel was born on September 26, 1968 in Mount Vernon, Washington. He was one of five children born to Margaret (Lavery), a former stage actress, and James Caviezel, a chiropractor. The Caviezels are a closely knit Catholic family. He is of Irish (mother) and Swiss and Slovak-Romansh (father) descent; the surname, "Caviezel", is ... See full bio »

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0:00.0

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, and catching foxes.

0:05.7

This awkward intro was brought to you by a new toy I bot by watching too many YouTube videos,

0:11.3

The Road, Roadcaster Pro.

0:13.6

It's got fun little buttons, and I'm sure I'm going to push way too many of them.

0:19.7

Such as this volume slider.

0:22.0

Oh, this is good.

0:23.4

Okay, you need to stop.

0:24.6

All right.

0:25.3

Hey, Brian.

0:25.7

How are you?

0:26.4

I'm well, Michael.

0:27.2

How are you?

0:27.6

I would say strong to quite strong.

0:29.9

You've got to strike when the iron's hot.

0:32.0

If you don't, I will.

0:33.5

So Brian Jones is the low league coordinator of liturgy here at St. Anthony of Padua.

0:38.1

Is your title?

0:39.0

Okay, you have had a handful of titles.

0:41.6

Some of them imposed by me that are illegitimate.

0:46.4

At one point, you had the title of manager.

0:49.2

And then I don't know if that ever stuck.

0:50.6

Did you ever get a name badge with the word manager on it?

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